On 21/7/05 02:56, "Neil McLeod" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Is 'cam' used in Modern Irish in any
> complex which produces the sense diagonal?
Surely only a matter of perspective in the case of two points - excluding,
in our case, only two points which sit on the same x-axis. The connection
can be described as an arc or as the diagonal. The movement may occur in
one way, but the resultant relationship between the two points can be seen
As an analogy, the movement of the knight in chess could be described as "de
leataobh cam". Rule books will describe it as two constituent movements on
the right-angle grid. Most players see the potential movement of the knight
in terms of arcs, but when they make the move, usually move it in a
straight, diagonal line.
Oh! Easier.....The tower in Pisa is "cam".
> How about:
> Rí Laigen fris co lleth camm
> sosath sreth-suide
> The king of Leinster next to him on the diagonally adjacent side
> of the positions of the arrayed-seats.
Do you need the genitive plural o-stem reading of 'sosath'? Scope for a
nominative singular u-stem? That would leave "co lleth camm" as an
BTW - do the questions of -th/-d endings and the confusion of u-stems and
o-stems intersect at all? Can you have your genitive plural cake and not
alone eat it but also have it iced with a -th ending? Maybe you can, I know
nothing, just see it as a question that could arise.
More plainly - is 'sosath' an original u-stem? If so, when it takes on an
o-stem declension, does the genitive plural end in -ad? Or, in the case
that 'sosath' retains 'th' in the genitive plural, would it have to have the
final vowel of the u-stem?