On 21/4/05 08:41, "David Stifter" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Micheál Ó Catháin wrote:
>> OK, but I seem to be reading the very same "laged" in H. (yours of 18
>> April) or is that already restored text from E?
> Alright, here's what we actually find in the MSS: E does indeed have
> "laged" spelt out, but H has "lag-" which Meyer expanded to "laged".
Are we worse off than ever? Where do you think that leaves us now? It
doesn't seem to really kill either option - or doesn't "kill it dead" in any
Palatal "laged" is in E but that in itself could be a scribal expansion for
a possibly ambiguous "lag-" in an older one which is also represented in H.
Alternatively, the "lag-" in H could be a scribal abbreviation for "laged"
in its exemplar and that also represented in E.
If Meyer had expanded to something in the lagad/lagud area, would either of
us have weighed this heavily towards "laiget" based on E?
But he didn't. And we did (although I'm of course going to waver on "lagad"
longer than most).
I don't think the MSS are going to allow us to dismiss "lagad" totally once
it is in discussion so its over to the interpretation of the text.
I must admit that although "weakening of wisdom" or "tempering of acuity"
rings a bell with me in the context of ires, cretem, crábud etc., I have no
hope of remembering more clearly (anyone out there know?) and I fail to get
a completely satisfactory reading of the paragraph as a whole with that
So could you tell me how you are reading the part from the "combination
flame" onwards? I take it it is this flame which does the loscud of dliged
and indliged, but do you read it as burning "dliged" "le duiri a crabaid"
and "indliged" separately "ar laged a ecno", or do you take it as burning
both "dliged 7 indliged" by the ardour of ... piety and dearth of ...
wisdom? (I'll get to those ... below.)
It occurs to me also that the two differing prepositions "le" and "ar" could
do with a bit more teasing out and that we need not presume "a" (... above)
to refer in both cases to the person discussed in the paragraph (or indeed
the flame) - "indliged" may be burned by the flame on the basis of how
little ecna indliged itself contains "ar laged a ecno".
Well, now that I've given a possible reading with "laiget" which isn't even
uncomplimentary, perhaps your challenge should be to propose one for
The reading requires "dliged" to be associated with "le duiri a craibaid"
and "indliged" separately with " ar laged a ecno", so the main question is
do people find that acceptable here? The context in which I find the
question of it being complimentary/uncomplimentary of possible importance is
in a separate message.