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Subject: Alltar 7 Cenntar
From: Croman mac Nessa <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Scholars and students of Old Irish <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:01:26 EST
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Maith sin.

I wonder if anyone has any *serious* theories as to the derivation of 
"Alltar" and "Cenntar."  "All," acc. to T.F. O'Rahilly, is a recognised variant of 
"oll" ("great"), seen, for example, in what O'Rahilly views as a theonym, 
"Allduí" ("Great God," acc. to him), so that could be the meaning of the initial 
element in "Alltar."  "Cenn" of course looks like "head, chief."  So what's this 
other element in the two words?  "Tar"?  What would that be?  I don't see a 
Proto-Celtic root that looks as if it might give "tar" in Old Irish and still 
make any sense.  Could "tar" be a variant of "tír"?  I'm told that Thurneysen 
discusses "Alltar," but I still haven't got a copy of his work, alas.


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