Twelve sons receiving an inheritance works out perfectly Patrick. The
paragraph continues with another set of five sons that inherit Maig Reta and
a set of three sons who inherit Feib.
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Subject: Re: help with translation
> From: rlivingston1488 <[log in to unmask]>
> > I am having problems with the following from the Rawlinson Genealogies,
> > paragraph 430:
> > "Epscop Ibar trá ro baiste dá mac déc Bairr m. Cáirthind. A cethir lia
> > n-athair cona fodlaib .i. Fergus, Nath Í, Énna, Áed."
> > I take the first sentence to mean "Bishop Ibar baptized the ten sons of
> > m. C."
> Dá mac déc = twelve sons (two sons ten)
> > "A cethir lia" = "his animal stone"? Is there a hidden meaning here?
> > "n-arthair" = "father" or "snake"?
> > "cona fodlaib" = "con-fodlai" = "to share".
> I think:
> A cethir = four (i.e. of the twelve sons)
> lia n-athair = le (with, by, at the hands of) + a n- (their) athair
> cona fodlaib = co n- + dat (with) a n- (their) fodlaib (dat pl of fodail -
> I'm guessing this is in the sense of a father distributing land or
> to his heirs? I think a young nobleman's status depended on whether he'd
> come into his inheritance, and was therefore an independent head of a
> household, or not.
> So something along the lines of:
> Four of them with their inheritance from their father, i.e. independent
> adult noblemen.
> I hope that's right.
> > The bigger problem arises from a preceeding paragraph that says: "Berach
> > Find m. Domongairt m. Bairr mc Sárbile cethri mc leis." Is there
> > here that explains how Barr could have two fathers? Or is one of these
> > his mother?
> I'll leave this to others. I've no idea what the nominative from Sárbile
> would be, or whether it would be a masculine or feminine name.
> > Thanks, Rob
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