[quick translation of Ken's report below - corrections welcome]
Quoting Ken LOHENTO <[log in to unmask]>:
> [Un compte rendu un peu informel. Ce message est diffusé à toutes les
> listes généralistes ci-dessous citées, comme il avait été convenu
> entre les co-auteurs de ce message. Si quelqu’un peut faire la
> traduction en anglais et la diffuser là où nécessaire, merci. Désolé
> pour les « cross-postings » :-)]
[ . . . ]
Bonjour, Ken. Voici une traduction (ci-dessous) vite et brute avec l'aide de
"systranet.com". J'ai modifié l'info sur Unicode-Afrique.
To the list of lists you have, I'd add some "specialist"/technical ones:
"a12n-collaboration" working group (on technical aspects of use of African
languages on computers and internet):
A set of language or country specific discussion boards initiated after
requests for information that such a forum could hopefully generate, or in
one case a specific request to set up a board: Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo,
Ghanaian languages. These are accessible via:
Votre propos dans ton resume - "et dans bien des cas, ce ne sont plus
les Africains qui parlent au nom d’Africains" - est vrai. Dans le domaine
de technologie concernant des applications multilingues, ce sont souvent
des non-Africains - des gens de bonne volonté, au moins ceux que je
connais - qui parlent. Mais cela changerai, j'espère, bientôt. Comme a
dit Amadou Hampaté Bâ, "Lorsque la chèvre est présente, on ne bêle pas
à sa place."
[An informal summary report. This message is diffused to all the
generalist lists cited below, as agreed by the joint authors of this
message. If somebody can translate into English and diffuse it where
necessary, thank you. Sorry for the cross-postings : -) ]
At the time of the last international Global CN meeting in Montreal:
www.globalcn.org, the Africans present met (about thirty). See list
(incomplete) below. After consultative meetings, they noted or called for
- There is too much dispersion of Africans, too many initiatives, but little
coordination between the initiatives; and in many cases, it is not Africans
any more who speak in the name of Africans;
- There is not sufficient information on the various initiatives and they
- If possible, the meeting which will take place in Addis Ababa in
November should be used as framework for discussion of better
coordination of these initiatives, in particular related to the preparation of
the World Summit on the Information Society.
- It would be necessary to work to associate to the civil society not
specialized in ICT in the process of preparing for the WSIS in Africa;
- There are several discussion lists on Africa and ICT; if possible we
should work to merge them; there would be inter alia, a problem of
translation to be solved; often the same ones [people] are on the same
Within this framework, I was asked to try to give a progress report on
existing discussion lists on the ICT in Africa.
To my knowledge, there are on the one hand formal and restricted
networks which created their own lists or of the lists installation within the
framework of regional or international efforts and on which information is
from time to time diffused (Ex: list of the Africanti network of the French
CNRS [research institution], list for participants of the AIG' 98 meeting in
Cotonou, FIA list, etc.); other there are lists open to all.
With regard to the latter, here the lists of which I am aware:
- AFRICA_NET; discussions in French, has existed for 2 years; http://
- AFROCN, in existence for a little more than one year, English
discussions; list created within the framework of the initiative Global CN
These three lists are or seek to be, I believe, for generalists.
There are lists relating to specific subjects, for example:
- Linux-Africa, on free software, (managed by la Francophonie I believe?)
for more information contact Pierre Ouédraogo
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- Unicode-Afrique; created approximately a year ago, information in French
There are probably even more specific lists, in particular in the
Note especially all the lists maintainted by Bellanet http://
www.bellanet.org/lyris/helper/index.cfm?fuseaction=Home which that
currently focused on the meeting in Addis Ababa http://www.bellanet.org/
The participants in the discussions thus wished that be merging [of lists]
be made where possible, or that no more lists for generalists be created.
They hoped that information on the African initiatives be in the future either
on a common site, or on all the sites treating of Africa and ICT so that
those who are not informed will be.
Consequently, they hope that those who will be present in Addis Ababa
would to take account of these remarks and proposals.
I hope that I covered the main points. Please let me know if I omitted
something or poorly conveyed an opinion.
List of participants in the meetings:
I don't have the complete list but included among others were:
Kodjo Gonsalves, Emmanuel Njenga (one of the organizers of the
meeting in Addis), Peter Benjamin (also with APC), Gideon Chonia,
TONYE Emmanuel, Marie-Helene MOTTIN, Gabriel BOMBAMBO, Mariama
MALE, Fatimata SEYE SYLLA, Mamadou COULIBALY, Aboubakar Abdou,
Abdoulaye Diarra, Rabia Abdelkrim, Mamadou Gaye, moi-même. Toutes
les régions de l'Afrique était représentées (by chance, maybe ?). Africans
living in Canada, France and England in particular were present.