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Subject: Re: Crom Cruaich = stack of corn with a curving design?
From: Croman mac Nessa <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Scholars and students of Old Irish <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:48:58 EDT

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In a message dated 6/26/02 5:38:32 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[log in to unmask] writes:

<< They identify Cenn/Crom with the
 Killycluggin Stone. >>

Feasgar math, Richard.

This Killycluggin Stone doesn't seem to be made of gold and presumably shows 
no traces of former gold-plating (or I would expect that to be mentioned in 
the site for which you provided the URL, and thanks for that).  Is it thus 
purely on the bases of its having been broken and its being in County Cavan 
that it's believed to be Crom Crúaich?

<< Another local theory says Crom Crúaich is the stone
 circle next to which the Stone was deliberately buried in the distant
 past, "crom" as "bending" presumably referring to the circle. The Stone
 was found in 1921 when it was struck by a plough. It was probably
 originally situated in the centre of the circle or at a distance from
 the entrance stones as an outlier. Its burial place is not where one
 would expect to find such a stone. The 1992 replica was installed in an
 accessible place next to the road about 300 yards from the stone circle. >>

The idea that the circle itself is Crom Crúaich seems to be a little 
incongruous, but I have some questions arising from this portion of your 
message.  How many stones are in the circle?  If less than 12, has evidence 
been found for some having been removed?  If more than 12, how do the locals 
explain the inconsistency with the reference in the Dindshenchus?  What is 
the name given locally to the circle?  If the Killycluggin Stone is the 
symbol of Crom Crúaich, why was the replica not placed in the centre of the 


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