>> Now for the clincher: there are typical Nervii gold coins bearing the
>> legend VIROS.
>Hmmm. In Latin that is the accusative plural of a man, or in military use,
>a soldier. (It also means slimes). I will accept this as evidence that
>there are instances of Nervii gold coins bearing Roman Legends.
It doesn't hold up. "Os" is a name ending in Gaulish. "Vir" is sometimes
written for "ver". It is so on some of the coins of Verica of the British
Atrebates -- who, incidently, was recorded in Latin as "Bericus".
These Nervii coins were once thought to be possibly coins of their
neighbours, the Viromandui, and that was dismissed because of both their
type, and their provenances. So with all the weight of the evidence taken
into consideration, I don't think you can demonstrate any sort of Roman
involvement at all.
>I could start another wild controversy here by pointing out that the word
>Nervii is a literation of two syllables that resemble my pronunciation of
>Norway, only shifting the vowels back along the tongue somewhat, and ask if
>anyone knows for sure that they weren't the people who later gave their name
>to the land we now call Norway. But it would probably be better not to.
I am absolutely sure that it would be better not to.
>> I am still not following you regarding the Arverian coins with the
>> VERCINGETORIX legend, are you trying to say that they are somehow Roman or
>I'm just finding it very hard to believe that Vercingetorix would write in
>Latin without a lot of help from the Romans.
He was not writing in Latin, he was writing in Gaulish. He was using the
same letters that the Romans used. The use of these letters has nothing to
do with being culturally Roman, they are just an alphabet that was used
over a wide area by diverse peoples. In Latium, and in Campania, Italy, we
have some essentially Greek silver coins, following Greek weight standards,
with Greek types, and these too have the same alphabet that was used by the
Romans. These coins were minted before the Romans minted silver coins of
Instead of saying "Celtic coin legends in Latin" say "Celtic coin legends
in an Italiot script" and you will be on more solid ground. We see many
Celtic coins with a Greek theta in combination with non-Greek letters --
this again points to a possible northern Italian influence as northern
Italian scripts had a theta as well as letters that looked more Latin than
Greek. The northern Italian L is very similar to the latin L but with a
more acute angle. It does not look like lambda. It might be difficult to
draw an absolute line between northern Italian and early Latin. Celtic
tribes from as far away as Saar in Germany had been importing northern (and
some southern) Italian goods for a long time. This was not "Roman trade".
And perhaps you could explain why the Romans would have helped
Vercingetorix to do anything but capitulate.
>Who is Vincent Megaw?
J. V. S. Megaw -- do a web search. You don't look at Celtic artifacts
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