>From: Mark Simonson <[log in to unmask]>
>used throughout the book to show basic roman proportions and so on. Chank's
>caps are much closer to Wotzkow's than the lowercase. Perhaps the peculiar y
>and so on came about because Chank was mesmerized by the phrase used
>repeatedly throughout the book in the lettering samples "Always endeavor to
>find some interesting variation." As far as there being no italic, there are
>models in the book, but maybe he hasn't read that far.
Spot on, Mark. I brought my copy of the Wotzkow book to work with me this
morning, and a brief browse does not show up any 'y' as eccentric as
Chank's. In general, however, I agree that there are strong elements of
Wotzkow's style in Venis.
>From: Jill Bell <[log in to unmask]>
>Yes it sounded familiar to me too....I do think I have it somewhere:
>one of those large Dover books (sort of like the Walter Lantz
>cartooning books). Just couldn't find it.
It's about 5.5 x 8.5" in my trade paper edition, with a greenish cover. I
bought it in the (probably) mid-80s, and the green on the cover is fading
in a sort of interesting way. Do you recall yours being larger than that, Jill?
>From: Hrant H Papazian <[log in to unmask]>
>But the best thing about Venis is that "y",
>and I'm convinced he made it up himself.
Well, he certainly didn't get it from Wotzkow!
Let me know off-list (I get the digest version) if you'd like to see some
scanned examples, Hrant. The proportion charts for majuscule & miniscule
(figs 29 & 59)are good examples. There's also a page (fig 56) of a serif
roman with caps and s.c.