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Re: XML-L Digest - 25 Aug 2001 to 28 Aug 2001 (#2001-69)

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Anil kumar More <[log in to unmask]>

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General discussion of Extensible Markup Language <[log in to unmask]>

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/Anil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Automatic digest processor [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 4:31 AM
> To: Recipients of XML-L digests
> Subject: XML-L Digest - 25 Aug 2001 to 28 Aug 2001 (#2001-69)
> 
> 
> There are 11 messages totalling 425 lines in this issue.
> 
> Topics of the day:
> 
>   1. normes (2)
>   2. begginer's schema Q. (2)
>   3. XML Schema Question
>   4. Need XSL training ASAP (6)
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:10:26 +0200
> From:    =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Berbel_Garc=EDa=2C_Jos=E9_Luis=22?=
>          <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: normes
> 
> Sorry, I'm became to learn XSLT and I saw this question long 
> time ago. Can
> you answer it now. Thank you.
> 
>  Hi,
>  What is the difference between
> xmlns:xsl= http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xsl 
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xsl>  and
> xmlns:xsl= http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform
> <http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
> 
> 
> Regards.
> Jose Luis
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:26:50 +0100
> From:    Oren <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: begginer's schema Q.
> 
> hi all,
> 
> as an xml beginner i am seeking an example of using schema 
> that uses other
> schemas (include? import? neither?) to validate some xml docs.
> 
> also, i don't know if there is a difference between the 
> various xml parsers
> implementations, so if there is, i hope it is not much a 
> trouble to make
> the example appropriate to the xerces c++ DOM implementation.
> Thanx,
> oren.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:54:58 +0100
> From:    Paul Spencer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: normes
> 
> The namespace with "WD" in it is used by versions of MSXML 
> before MSXML3.
> Basically, this means earlier versions of IE5 and IIS. The 
> second one is the
> official XSLT namespace that you should be using for standards-based
> stylesheets.
> 
> Paul Spencer
> CTO, alphaXML Ltd
> alphaXML is recruiting XML Consultants
> +44 (0)1491 630053
> http://www.alphaxml.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: General discussion of Extensible Markup Language
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Berbel García, José Luis
> Sent: 28 August 2001 07:10
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: normes
> 
> 
> Sorry, I'm became to learn XSLT and I saw this question long 
> time ago. Can
> you answer it now. Thank you.
> 
>  Hi,
>  What is the difference between
> xmlns:xsl= http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xsl 
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/WD-xsl>  and
> xmlns:xsl= http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform
> <http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
> 
> 
> Regards.
> Jose Luis
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:02 +0100
> From:    Paul Spencer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: begginer's schema Q.
> 
> Try looking at www.govtalk.gov.uk and follow links to 
> interoperability and
> then approved schemas.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Paul Spencer
> CTO, alphaXML Ltd
> alphaXML is recruiting XML Consultants
> +44 (0)1491 630053
> http://www.alphaxml.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: General discussion of Extensible Markup Language
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Oren
> Sent: 28 August 2001 07:27
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: begginer's schema Q.
> 
> 
> hi all,
> 
> as an xml beginner i am seeking an example of using schema 
> that uses other
> schemas (include? import? neither?) to validate some xml docs.
> 
> also, i don't know if there is a difference between the 
> various xml parsers
> implementations, so if there is, i hope it is not much a 
> trouble to make
> the example appropriate to the xerces c++ DOM implementation.
> Thanx,
> oren.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:55:06 +0100
> From:    Paul Spencer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: XML Schema Question
> 
> For your optional elements, you need to include 
> "minOccurs="0". That might
> explain your error message - if you have a bill_to_phone without a
> bill_to_contact, you would get the message you quote.
> 
> If this is not the problem, can you post the instance as well 
> as the schema.
> Also, replace tabs by a couple of spaces - it is much easier 
> to read for
> those offering free help.
> 
> You might also like to re-think your naming. You have a 
> generic "Address"
> type, but all the sub-elements make it a billing address. Why 
> not just use
> element names like "city" and "state"? Then you can define an 
> element as:
> 
> <xsd:element name="BillingAddress type="Address"/>
> 
> Or you could define Company, Address and Contact separately 
> and pull them
> together for billing.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Paul Spencer
> CTO, alphaXML Ltd
> alphaXML is recruiting XML Consultants
> +44 (0)1491 630053
> http://www.alphaxml.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: General discussion of Extensible Markup Language
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Lamonde, Steve
> Sent: 23 August 2001 21:01
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: XML Schema Question
> 
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I have a newbie question regarding the defining of a sequence 
> in a schema.
> 
> My schema (so far) looks like this :
> 
> >       <!-- Defining the type Address -->
> >               <xsd:complexType name="Address">
> >                               <xsd:sequence>
> >                                       <xsd:element
> > name="bill_to_location_name"            type="xsd:string"/>
> >                                       <xsd:element
> > name="bill_to_location_address1"     type="xsd:string"/>
> >                                       <xsd:element
> > name="bill_to_location_address2"     type="xsd:string"/>
> >                                       <xsd:element
> > name="bill_to_location_city"               type="xsd:string"/>
> >                                       <xsd:element
> > name="bill_to_location_state"             type="xsd:string"/>
> >                                       <xsd:element
> > name="bill_to_location_zipcode"        type="xsd:string"/>
> >                               </xsd:sequence>
> >                               <xsd:element name="bill_to_contact"
> > type="xsd:string"/>
> >                               <xsd:element name="bill_to_phone"
> > type="xsd:string"/>
> >           </xsd:complexType>
>           </xsd:schema>
> 
> I am attempting to put all of the "bill_to_location" elements 
> in a standard
> sequence, while allowing "bill_to_contact" and 
> "bill_to_phone" to remain
> optional. However, I am unable to validate this as I am getting an
> "unexpected child element" error on the elements that are not 
> defined in the
> sequence. How would I accomplish this?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Steve
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:08:05 -0400
> From:    Barnaby Ng <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> We have a small project that involves publishing the data 
> from a XML file
> onto our intranet in the form of HTML pages. I'm thinking of 
> using XML Spy
> for the job, but in-house we don't have anybody who knows how to write
> XSLT. The project is due end of this year. I've looked but 
> cannot find any
> one day training course in town (Toronto, Canada). Any suggestion?
> Alternative can someone recommend a good book that can get us started?
> 
> Thanks,
> Barnaby
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:33:17 -0400
> From:    Bob Hitchins <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> Barnaby,
> 
> I have found what I think you're looking for in Chapter 9 of
> Professional XML 2nd Edition from WROX.  The ISBN number is:
> 1-861005-05-9
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Bob Hitchins
> Sr I/T Business Analyst
> Cargill Fertilizer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 11:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> 
> We have a small project that involves publishing the data from a XML
> file
> onto our intranet in the form of HTML pages. I'm thinking of using XML
> Spy
> for the job, but in-house we don't have anybody who knows how to write
> XSLT. The project is due end of this year. I've looked but cannot find
> any
> one day training course in town (Toronto, Canada). Any suggestion?
> Alternative can someone recommend a good book that can get us started?
> 
> Thanks,
> Barnaby
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:14:22 -0400
> From:    "G. Ken Holman" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> At 01/08/28 11:08 -0400, Barnaby Ng wrote:
> >We have a small project that involves publishing the data 
> from a XML file
> >onto our intranet in the form of HTML pages. I'm thinking of 
> using XML Spy
> >for the job, but in-house we don't have anybody who knows 
> how to write
> >XSLT. The project is due end of this year. I've looked but 
> cannot find any
> >one day training course in town (Toronto, Canada). Any suggestion?
> 
> We are running a three-day comprehensive hands-on XSLT/XPath training
> course in Ottawa, Canada October 1-3, followed by XSLFO on 
> October 4-5.  We
> cover *every* XSLT/XPath instruction and function and *every* XSLFO
> formatting object during the two courses.  Due to time 
> constraints we do
> not cover all 246 XSLFO properties, but we cover enough that 
> students have
> been very pleased with the results.
> 
> We have a number of licensees around the world who also deliver this
> material (one of them is in Toronto), and the list of 
> licensees is found on
> our schedule page where we summarize the abstracts of all our courses.
> 
> >Alternative can someone recommend a good book that can get 
> us started?
> 
> We sell the electronic publication "Practical Transformation 
> Using XSLT and
> XPath" for individual, site-staff and world-staff licenses.  
> This contains
> more detailed low-level information than the instructor-led, 
> but does not
> include exercises:
> 
>    Practical Transformation Using XSLT and XPath
>    (XSL Transformations and the XML Path Language)
>    Ninth Edition - 2001-01-19 - ISBN 1-894049-06-3
>    Copyright (c) 2001 Crane Softwrights Ltd.
>    / 375 Pages / Subscription price includes free updates
>    /           / and separate copy of all example files.
>    /           / Free 137-page download preview excerpt.
> 
> The tenth edition is due next month.  All existing customers will be
> notified of their perpetually free updates.
> 
> Details are on our website ... inquiries should go direct to 
> us and not to
> the list, please.
> 
> We hope this helps.
> 
> .......................... Ken
> 
> 
> --
> G. Ken Holman                      
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> Crane Softwrights Ltd.               
> http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/l/
> Box 266, Kars, Ontario CANADA K0A-2E0     +1(613)489-0999   
> (Fax:-0995)
> Web site:     XSL/XML/DSSSL/SGML/OmniMark services, training, 
> products.
> Book:  Practical Transformation Using XSLT and XPath ISBN 
> 1-894049-06-3
> Article: What is XSLT? 
> http://www.xml.com/pub/2000/08/holman/index.html
> Next public instructor-led training:      
> 2001-09-18,09-19,10-01,10-04,
> -                                         
> 10-22,11-05,12-09,12-10,02-02
> 
> Training Blitz: 3-days XSLT/XPath, 2-days XSLFO in Ottawa 
> 2001-10-01/05
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:25:49 +0100
> From:    Paul Spencer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> I would go for Professional XSL from Wrox - a complete book 
> on XSL, most of
> it XSLT. And buy it through our web site - we get commission 
> from Amazon and
> give it all to charity.
> 
> Paul Spencer
> CTO, alphaXML Ltd
> author: Professional XML Design and Implementation (Wrox Press)
> co-author: Beginning XML, Professional XSL (Wrox Press)
> XML services for industry and Government
> +44 (0)1491 630053
> http://www.alphaxml.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: General discussion of Extensible Markup Language
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Barnaby Ng
> Sent: 28 August 2001 16:08
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> 
> We have a small project that involves publishing the data 
> from a XML file
> onto our intranet in the form of HTML pages. I'm thinking of 
> using XML Spy
> for the job, but in-house we don't have anybody who knows how to write
> XSLT. The project is due end of this year. I've looked but 
> cannot find any
> one day training course in town (Toronto, Canada). Any suggestion?
> Alternative can someone recommend a good book that can get us started?
> 
> Thanks,
> Barnaby
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:06:03 -0700
> From:    Tom Webb <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> Here is an URL for W3CSchools with several tutorials that 
> will help you and
> it is free.  http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp The Wrox 
> series for XML
> are excellent as well.
> Tom Webb
> 
> At 11:08 AM 8/28/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >We have a small project that involves publishing the data 
> from a XML file
> >onto our intranet in the form of HTML pages. I'm thinking of 
> using XML Spy
> >for the job, but in-house we don't have anybody who knows 
> how to write
> >XSLT. The project is due end of this year. I've looked but 
> cannot find any
> >one day training course in town (Toronto, Canada). Any suggestion?
> >Alternative can someone recommend a good book that can get 
> us started?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Barnaby
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date:    Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:41:42 +0100
> From:    Michael Beddow <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Need XSL training ASAP
> 
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:08 PM
> Barnaby Ng wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > can someone recommend a good book that can get us started?
> 
> I'd strongly recommend you look at Bob duCharme's book XSLT Quickly.
> 
> http://www.snee.com/bob/xsltquickly/index.html
> 
> The title is well chosen, and seems a good fit to your needs.
> 
> Also, sign up whoever takes this on to the XSL-List
> http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list
> and warn them they'll need to devote quite a while each day to reading
> the heavy traffic, most of which contains advice that simply isn't
> available elsewhere
> 
> Michael
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Michael Beddow   http://www.mbeddow.net/
> XML and the Humanities page:  http://xml.lexilog.org.uk/
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> End of XML-L Digest - 25 Aug 2001 to 28 Aug 2001 (#2001-69)
> ***********************************************************
> 

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