>So? It's a minority, nevertheless, which consistently seems to pass from
>generation to generation. Is it something intrinsic to either soccer, the
>English or both?
While a select few English soccer fans undoubtedly earned the entire nation the reputation of being hooligans, it is not possible to ignore other countries whose fans have behaved in possibly worse ways in recent times. The best example to come to mind is the death of the two Leeds supporters earlier this year in Turkey. To say it is intrinsic to the English gives the impression that you think there must be a genetic marker in only English people that selects them for the propensity towards hooliganism, which is of course utter rubbish. You only have to be in Llanelli or Swansea post-match to know that Welsh football (round ball) supporters can be just as bad as, if not worse than, English supporters - even of the Millwall variety.
An aspect of behaviour passing from generation to generation is more to do with the way children are brought up than to do with their nationality. If I had kids born in Wales they would technically be Welsh (no, this is NOT a licence to enter the foray of the "how is nationality / culture defined" debate!) while I am English, but being Welsh wouldn't mean they are more or less likely to be little horrors, or grow up to become football hooligans. One solution would be to castrate all hooligans thus preventing them having children and passing their fascist / racist / any extremist views onto their offspring.
> >Fans from both sides mingle with each other before, during and after the
> >game (unless England loses and then they go home to sulk).
The worst sulker after defeat I have known was a Scot, who couldn't even speak after his football team lost the Tennents (yes I know possibly not spellt right) Cup final a few years ago - but then what did he expect, it was Falkirk after all.
>For the Welsh to lose at rugby doesn't involve a mere sulk, but to have a
>national day of mourning where we don't leave the house til the following
You've had quite a lot of them over the past few years, haven't you!