> From: Suzanne Compton [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reasonable conclusions are not facts, and they should
> not be interpreted as such.
Agreed--but to assert that nothing can be concluded is also not a
> Indeed they may be used to justify such people; that
> is not how I intend to use it-- however, in this
> matter I think it has been established that compelling
> evidence exists for both sides.
What compelling evidence? I haven't seen anything that persuades me
to conclude that the ancient Celts celebrated solstices.
> When it comes to
> people thinking what they please, that is exactly what
> you are doing, as you have chosen which pool of
> evidence you will draw your conclusions from. The
> evidence that may seem most compelling to you may seem
> the most flimsy to others.
And vice versa.
> And since you have been requesting sources from
and I have stated several of mine--which you apparently overlooked!
> I wish you would send me yours if they are available online.
I haven't seen one source from you!
> If they are not, titles & a ISBN number would be helpful, as I could
> access books/journals through my university's library loan
> system. (You may have already sent sources to the list
> and I missed them. If that is the case, feel free to
> send them to me privately.
Here's a short, very incomplete list, mostly books rather than
journal articles. I'm in the midst of moving offices so my materials are in
Pamela Berger, The Goddess Obscured, Beacon Press, 1985; ISBN 0-8070-6723-7
Walter Brenneman and Mary Brenneman, Crossing the Circle at the Holy Wells
of Ireland Univ Press of Virginia (1995); ISBN: 0-8139-1548-1
Alexander Carmichael, ed., Carmina Gadelica: Hymns & Incantations
Lindisfarne Books: 1992; ISBN: 0940262509
Dr. John Clague, Cooinaghtyn Manninagh (Manx Reminiscences), 1911, privately
Kevin Danaher, In Ireland Long Ago Irish Amer Book Co (1997); ISBN:
Kevin Danaher, The Year in Ireland: Irish Calendar Customs (1972) Irish
Books & Media (1972); ISBN: 0-9377-0213-7
Henry H. Glassie; Passing the Time in Ballymenone: Culture and History of an
Ulster Community Indiana Univ Pr: 1995; ISBN: 0253209870
Sheila Livingstone, Scottish Festivals, Birlinn Limited (1997); ISBN:
M/aire Mac Neill, Festival at Lughnas,, Oxford Univ. Press, 1962
Kim McCone, Pagan Past and Christian Present in Early Irish Literature, An
Daniel Melia. "The Grande Tromenie at Locronan: A Major Breton Lughnasa
Celebration." Journal ofAmerican Folklore 91 (1978), 528-542.
Peter Narvaez, ed., The Good People: New Fairylore Essays Univ Pr of
Kentucky (1997); ISBN: 0813109396
S/eamas /O Cath/ain, The Festival of Brigit, DBA Publications, 1995; ISBN
Trefor M. Owen, Welsh Folk Customs (1987) Gomer Press; ISBN: 0863833470
Nerys Paterson, Cattle Lords and Clansmen, Univ. Notre Dame Press, 1994;
Alwyn & Brinley Rees, Celtic Heritage, Thames & Hudson: 1989; ISBN:
John Rhys, "Manx Folklore, Parts 1 and 2", Folklore II and III
Jack Santino, ed. Hallowe'en and Other Festivals of Death and Life.
Knoxville, Tennessee: University ofTennessee Press, 1994.
Jack Santino, The Hallowed Eve: Dimensions of Culture in a Calendar Festival
in Northern Ireland Univ Pr of Kentucky: 1998; ISBN: 0813120810
> I'm not asking for them to try and discredit you,
I have no problem supplying sources--and I have been doing
so--despite your claim that I have not. But I find this claim difficult to
> simply because I am very interested in this debate and I have been
> collecting sources fiendishly so that I may better educate myself
> on the subject.)
BTW, it's not simply enough to look at sources--one also has to
evaluate their quality. Not all sources are created equal.