lol How to be a pagan is six easy steps... trust me, I hate those books
as well. Yes, you are being a smartass but it is true. However, I have
reproductions of the "ancient calendars" of the different cultures..
including mayan, menocian, etc. Most are similar to the neo-pagan wheel of
the year in formation. I agree the terms are modern, most coming about in
the 1950's with the resurgance of paganism and wicca. The practices are not
ancient but based on ancient lore.
As has been said on the list before, there is little documented about the
ancients. The best renditions are from the conquerors.... Caesar, namely.
So none of what is taught as "truth" about ancient pagan religions can be
verified, especially when speaking of celtic paganism. I used terms that
most well-read persons would understand. But the point remains, they are
hardly Christian holidays or adapted from Christian holidays.
I also love when the movies such as "The Craft" and shows like "Charmed"
come out.... the silly questions that come :)
> From: Suzanne Compton
> > The entire pagan religion is based on the wheel of>
> the year... with 8
> > sabbats and 13 esbats. The christian holidays have>
> nothing at all to do
> > with the wheel of the year or any such solstices.
> Well, this perhaps I don't agree with as much. I do
> agree that most non-Christian religions are built
> around the cycle intrisic to life on this planet. I
> say non-Christian rather than Pagan, because this
> applies not just to the Neo-Pagan movement, but also
> to forms of spirituality that include, notably, the
> Native American cultures. I don't think I heard the
> term "Wheel of the Year," though, until I started
> reading the mass-produced "How to be a Pagan in Six
> Easy Steps" books. I'm not trying to be a smartass or
> offend any Pagans on here, it's just hard for me to
> contain my cynicism at religion so neatly packaged.
> The esbats and the sabbats-- likewise I am sure they
> have a glorious and notable heritage among Pagan
> peoples, as well as a common linguistic background
> with the holy days celebrated by those Pagan peoples,
> but I did not actually hear them referred to as such
> until I read the new "Popular Witchcraft" What I'm
> trying to say is that while Pagan religions share some
> basic similarities (just as all religions share some
> basic similarities) it is an oversimplification to put
> all Pagan religions into categories from a Llewellyn
> practical magic series book. (I really do not mean
> this to sound as mean as I know it will. I repeat, I
> am not trying to attack anyone's belief system,
> because I feel that belief systems are as important as
> they are unique. I am, however, a born-again cynic,
> and some would say a classic Leo, so I cannot help but
> to call it as I see it. :) )
> Suzanne Compton