You talk a great deal of sense, and I always liked the word "Excoiate."
Even so, although born in England, I have always prefered to be Welsh,
haveing spent teen age and early grown up life there. I would never say I
was Scottish,although I esteem myself to be a "Highlander," a quite
different kettle of fish, to mox a mittefor.
Anyway what indeed does it matter what our forbears did as long as we try to
behave with some sort of sense and charity.
I often find it necessary to point out to ginger haired and pimply persons
that Scotland was not the only place to have "Clearances." They had them in
England a few years earlier and called them, "The Enclosure Acts."
I'm not sure what they were called in USA. but I have heard it said that the
only good In'jun is a dead one.
> Dear Cris
> You asked recently why you should be ashamed of being English.
> The answer is simple: You shouldn't.
> The idea that all English people are somehow tainted with responsibility
> events in the past, way beyond living memory, is a total nonsense.
> I doubt whether the Americans who support this absurdity feel any shred of
> personal responsibility for their own country's disgusting, and more
> or ongoing, behaviour in Vietnam, San Salvador, Colombia ... However,
> your own nest is full of your own excrement it is always a relief to find
> someone outside upon whom you can deposit the excess.
> Just as Uncle Sam found/finds no shortage of local volunteers to
> murder/torture/despoil their neighbours, so the "English" found no
> of locals only too pleased to have a semi-legitimate excuse to vent their
> spleen on their fellow citizens. It is worth remembering that the
> of those who carried out the evictions during the famine were every bit as
> Irish as their victims, as were their immediate superiors. Similarly,
> who thrust Welshmen down mines into foul and dangerous conditions, from
> which so many suffered death and disease, were every bit as Welsh as their
> Those who escaped from this oppression have the convenience, which they
> seized with enthusiasm, of having a "ready-made scapegoat" so that they
> pretend, through the rose-tinted spectacles of hindsight, that they are
> themselves racially pure of mind, body and spirit. Reviling "the English"
> is a handy way of sweeping the guilt of your own kith and kin under the
> carpet. Unfortunately, the "English" who were similarly thrust down mines
> or into the dark satanic mills have no similar fanciful embodiment of
> You will notice that most of the excoriation of "the English" comes from
> people whose personal experience of the British Isles and the countries
> which currently occupy them, the UK and the RoI, is nil. Their
> stereotypical perception of present-day conditions bears as much
> to reality as Brigadoon does to today's Scotland or Tara does to today's
> Mr Patel, who runs my local corner shop, is not ashamed to be English. Mr
> Lee, who owns my local Chinese takeaway, is not ashamed to be English. I
> certainly not ashamed to be English. Neither should you be.
> Al the best
> John B
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