>>"I believe the self-identifier 'celt' is a political choice made by those
who wish to make a statement of cultural/linguistic/political >difference
against the dominant English cultural/linguistic/political hegemony which
exists in Britain today.
The need to be in the club. Together in adversity and all that. Nothing
wrong in that of course, just make sure you don't push the matter such that
you begin asserting this definition as the 'real' or 'only' true meaning for
>>>When I made the statement I thought it obvious that I was referring to
people who "live" the cultural/linguistic aspect of living in a Celtic
country or whom have at least have been raised abroad as such. If they have,
then I believe it is a relatively straight forward step to embrace the
notion of being a Celt - a political statement confirming the lived reality.
The chosen people rise again. You are suggesting that birth and upbringing
afford membership of something special?
>>>There are, after all, those in England who sympathise with the Irish and
other Celts and in that would find reason to want to call themselves celts.
In what way would 'celts' require sympathy?
>>>people of different color, by extention come from different cultural
backgrounds and that's the crux isn't it? *Cultural*.
That would depend on your definition of 'culture' and that's the crux isn't
it? Or is it ethnicity? Or are they one and the same?
>>>"then wouldn't it be difficult to argue that a person is a celt if they
are descended from generation after generation of Anglo-saxons?(i.e, someone
who lives and whose ancestors have lived in England)."
>>Or someone who is descended from generation after generation from, Jewish
people? African American? Asian?
>>>Absolutely!! But *NOT* if they have lived in a Celtic country and are
conversant with a Celtic language or the history of that country.
The qualifiers again. Language. History. And if you were born in say Dinan
of irrefutable Breton parentage, made a living as a scholar of Breton
history etc. but had only pidgen Breton are you then 'merely' a citizen of
the French state?
>>>Looks like you need to think this through as your vicous biggotry has
clouded your judgment somethin terrible.
To the world in general:
It seems that, as ever, the most heated arguments - call it a debate if you
will - arise over the detail of an issue between those of fundamentally
One issue only is evident from the above and previous statements: 'celt' is,
apparently, a term of exclusion. Until you can define 'celt' in a manner
which is not grounded on an understanding of what it is not, you will make