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Subject: Re: What every Celticist should know - Celtic Bohemia
From: Alizah E Solomon <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:CELTIC-L - The Celtic Culture List.
Date:Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:12:04 -0600

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-The Milesian invasion story, for example, comes from Orosius-

Does he specifically mention this in his writings?  Which text?
Yes, it certainly is hard separating the threads that are native Irish and
those that are influenced from outside sources. (As well as the Chrisitian
and non-Chrisitan).
Thanks again for the help.

Alizah Solomon

-----Original Message-----
From: CELTIC-L - The Celtic Culture List.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Christopher Gwinn
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:39 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: What every Celticist should know - Celtic Bohemia

>Paulus Orosius (fl. AD 414-417) and Isodore of  Seville yes?

That's correct.

>but how are they connected with the writing of the Lebor Gabala Erenn?

They both wrote immensely popular and influential "histories" (really
speculations on history in some cases, often involving grossly inaccurate
folk-etymologies of personal- and placenames), which had sections mentioning
the Irish. The compilers of the LGE were very much influenced by Orosius and
Isidore - in fact we can see in certain sections of the LGE where passages
have been directly lifted from the two authors.

>These guys would have a notably Christian slant yes?

Certainly - they were both very devout Christians.

>the writing in the Lebor Gabala Erenn is an odd mix of Chriatian and
>non-Christian paradigms-

Very true. The hard part is separating the different threads objectively.
The Milesian invasion story, for example, comes from Orosius, but some
characters in the LGE version are native Irish (such as Eremon).

- Chris Gwinn

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